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    Definition of edit warring
    Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different from a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring.
    Definition of the three-revert rule (3RR)
    An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions.

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    User:49.195.79.115 reported by User:R0paire-wiki (Result: Already blocked one week)

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    Page: Abortion in Australia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: 49.195.79.115 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 11:42, 16 October 2024 (UTC) "more accurate language"
    2. 11:37, 16 October 2024 (UTC) "wording was previously and deliberately misleading, using dehumanising language to describe a vulnerable group of human individuals. A "foetus" is scientifically a human individual, in their foetal stage of development. Unanimously agreed upon by scientists globally."
    3. 11:33, 16 October 2024 (UTC) ""
    4. 11:25, 16 October 2024 (UTC) "clearer language without key categorical information omitted to dehumanise the human in foetal stage of development"

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 11:26, 16 October 2024 (UTC) "Unconstructive editing (UV 0.1.6)"
    2. 11:35, 16 October 2024 (UTC) "Caution: Not adhering to neutral point of view on Abortion in Australia."
    3. 11:38, 16 October 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Not adhering to a neutral point of view (UV 0.1.6)"

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments:

    Repeated unnecessary POV-pushing and edit warring R0paire-wiki (talk) 11:45, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    global consensus among biologists: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36629778/ 49.195.79.115 (talk) 11:49, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That is utterly irrelevant. You write in your edit summary that "A "foetus" is scientifically a human individual, in their foetal stage of development. Unanimously agreed upon by scientists globally." Yet you remove foetus because it's "dehumanising" and change to "unborn individual human"? This is blatant disruptive editing. AusLondonder (talk) 12:01, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    One of their edit summaries since says "... previous edit did not define what species of animal was in their foetal stage of development." is very disingenuous and in bad-faith trying to synthesise a justification. It is very blatant. R0paire-wiki (talk) 12:24, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This editor also caused a blatant copyright violation. This edit [1] is a complete copy/paste job from the very source they added to the article. Other edits are clear violations of WP:SYNTH in an attempt to push their personal worldview into the article. Damien Linnane (talk) 13:30, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Already blocked  for a period of 1 week by Jake Wartenberg (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) I will also be leaving a CTOPS alert on the IP's talk page and a notice on the article talk page. Daniel Case (talk) 01:33, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I strongly suspect 49.186.44.94 to be this user block evading. Very similar edits to Abortion in Australia.
    Edits: 1, 2, 3, 4 R0paire-wiki (talk) 07:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Tredanielsunf reported by User:Magical Golden Whip (Result: Declined)

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    Page: Raven's Home (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: Tredanielsunf (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 04:55, 17 October 2024 (UTC) "show has ended, no talk page active to discuss this change. Sixth season cycle notes can be found in production section."
    2. 03:30, 17 October 2024 (UTC) "show has ended and line remains irrelevant to introduction."
    3. 02:37, 17 October 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1251613209 by Magical Golden Whip (talk) no revision notes or reasoning"
    4. 19:54, 16 October 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1251513618 by Magical Golden Whip (talk) still no notes from previous revert"

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 01:43, 17 October 2024 (UTC) "General note: Unconstructive editing on Raven's Home."
    2. 03:07, 17 October 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Raven's Home."
    3. 04:46, 17 October 2024 (UTC) "Final warning notice."

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments:

    Edit warring over Six Season still being deleted was reverted a few days ago as well. Mainly reverted due to WP:Not Broken then WP:DE due to the first warning I gave. Didn’t apptepte to come to a sense on talk page. I did release after my last revert I went over my limit and was my mistake, but was mainly trying to just restore the page with the sixth season being there as in my opion it was fine and not an issue. Magical Golden Whip (talk) 07:44, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Magical Golden Whip: While I do agree that the other user is bring disruptive, with all due respect, as you do a lot of good work here, I would kindly suggest you use caution from here onward, as you are just as guilty in terms of edit warring and could easily see yourself blocked as well, which I do not want to see for you. Whether you're right or wrong is up to consensus on the article talk page. However, while there are some exceptions to continuously reverting another user or IP, your edits do not fall under said exemptions, as listed at WP:3RRNO. Add: Also, given the nature of this, it probably would have been better to let someone uninvolved start this since, as I mentioned earlier, you are involved and just as guilty in terms of edit warring. Amaury • 07:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, I should have handled this differently and will in the future. If mine was reverted by someone else who did seem to have more experience than me I would have left it alone. However should have stooped the reverting. Magical Golden Whip (talk) 18:55, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Declined per discussion above. Daniel Case (talk) 03:30, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:223.29.234.202 {Declined)

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    Page: Lancia Thema (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: 223.29.234.202 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Disruptive user not knowing the difference between model years and production years, stubbornly adding "production" as a descriptor for common model years.

    Previous version reverted to:

    1. [2]

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. [3]
    2. [4]
    3. [5]
    4. [6]

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    1. [7]

    YBSOne (talk) 09:56, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Same IP and the related 202.47.32.60 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) are edit warring on numerous Lancia pages, also at Lancia Flaminia. Not here to work in a collaborative manner.  Mr.choppers | ✎  12:46, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Declined You have not warned them in any way that I can see that they are edit warring. No wonder they keep doing it. Daniel Case (talk) 03:33, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry, I thought that Template:Uw-ew was to inform of a noticeboard. YBSOne (talk) 10:08, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:1.145.52.239 reported by User:TryAgainSooner (Result: No violation)

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    Page: October 15 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: 1.145.52.239 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 12:00, 17 October 2024 (UTC) "No. He was born in Argentina. Calling him British-Irish is incorrect."
    2. 10:03, 17 October 2024 (UTC) "He was born in Argentina."
    3. 09:18, 17 October 2024 (UTC) ""
    4. 07:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC) ""

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 15:36, 17 October 2024 (UTC) "ONLY Warning: Edit warring (UV 0.1.6)"
    2. Also two warnings from @Felida97: Special:Diff/1251673482

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Already discussed on main article talk page:

    1. Talk:Chris_de_Burgh#Nationality
    2. Talk:Chris_de_Burgh#Ancestry

    User has been advised to revive these discussions, but has chosen not to do so, see edit summaries of Special:Diff/1251662464, Special:Diff/1251660017, Special:Diff/1251658157.


    Comments:

    Edit war by IP address, has been reverted by many pending change reviewers multiple times, but keeps adding the same change. Has been warned 3 times, and has reverted 4 times, breaking WP:3RR. The topic has already been discussed on the article's talk page many times, see Talk:Chris_de_Burgh#Nationality and IP has been advised to restart discussion if they wish, but has chosen not to do so (in edit summaries and with the edit war warning template). 🔄️TryAgainSooner🕑 🗣️ 15:40, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    No violation – there must be four or more reverts within a 24 hour period for the 3-Revert Rule to apply; the links you have provided do not meet these criteria.} The user has only reverted three times. The edit being reverted to does not itself count as a revert. Daniel Case (talk) 03:37, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:2601:2C1:C200:7090:34D9:F1F1:A52C:C34E reported by User:Nimbus227 (Result: /64 blocked 35 hours)

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    Page: Affordaplane (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: 2601:2C1:C200:7090:34D9:F1F1:A52C:C34E (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    and 2601:2C1:C200:7090:8DBF:EDAB:FA06:84F5 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to: [8]

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. [9]
    2. [10]
    3. [11]
    4. [12]

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [13]

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [14] and [15]

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [16] and [17]

    Comments:
    Guideline shortcut links repeatedly added to edit summaries, no responses to either user talk edit warring notice on first IP or article talk page request. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 16:45, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Blocked – for a period of 36 hours The /64, to be precise. Daniel Case (talk) 03:41, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Lb01234 reported by User:Khirurg (Result: Already blocked 24 hours)

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    Page: Himarë (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: Lb01234 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. Consecutive edits made from 18:39, 17 October 2024 (UTC) to 18:39, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
      1. 18:39, 17 October 2024 (UTC) "The previous editing was based on citations that did not reflect the subject or were not from official reports by institutions responsible for providing accurate information. Some of the sources were mostly personal opinions or studies, not official institutional reports."
      2. 18:39, 17 October 2024 (UTC) "The previous editing was based on citations that did not reflect the subject or were not from official reports by institutions responsible for providing accurate information. Some of the sources were mostly personal opinions or studies, not official institutional reports."
    2. Consecutive edits made from 18:27, 17 October 2024 (UTC) to 18:28, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
      1. 18:27, 17 October 2024 (UTC) "The previous editing was based on citations that did not reflect the subject or were not from official reports by institutions responsible for providing accurate information. Some of the sources were mostly personal opinions or studies, not official institutional reports."
      2. 18:28, 17 October 2024 (UTC) "The previous editing was based on citations that did not reflect the subject or were not from official reports by institutions responsible for providing accurate information. Some of the sources were mostly personal opinions or studies, not official institutional reports."
    3. 18:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC) "The previous editing was based on citations that did not reflect the subject or were not from official reports by institutions responsible for providing accurate information. Some of the sources were mostly personal opinions or only one part historic studies, not official institutional reports."
    4. 18:10, 17 October 2024 (UTC) "The previous editing was based on citations that did not reflect the subject or were not from official reports by institutions responsible for providing accurate information. Some of the sources were mostly personal opinions or studies, not official institutional reports."

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 18:26, 17 October 2024 (UTC) "General note: Unconstructive editing."
    2. 18:31, 17 October 2024 (UTC) "/* October 2024 */ new section"

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments:

    4 rapid-fire reverts within the last 30 minutes or so, with identical edit-summaries, removing sourced information. There is every indication that this will continue indefinitely without a block. Khirurg (talk) 18:42, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Looks like they're socking with another account as well ][18]. Khirurg (talk) 19:45, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Already blocked  for a period of 24 hours by Ad Orientem (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) Daniel Case (talk) 03:44, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:194.38.172.194 and User:194.230.146.37 reported by User:Theklan (Result: Blocked)

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    Page: Carles Puigdemont (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: 194.230.146.37 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and 194.38.172.194 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to: [19]

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. [20]
    2. [21]
    3. [22]
    4. [23]
    5. [24]
    6. [25]
    7. [26]

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: User_talk:194.38.172.194#Edit_warring

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: There's a consensus over the first sentence of this article, with a long RfC. It has been added to the edits, and explained to the user.

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [diff]

    Comments:
    There is a long RfC available here: Talk:Carles_Puigdemont/Archive_5. The user doesn't seem interested on that, and is not only adding the word Spain in the first sentence (which goes against the consensus), he is also adding it way more times in the article. Theklan (talk) 20:34, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Hahonryuu reported by User:Trailblazer101 (Result: Blocked indefinitely)

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    Page: Power Girl (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: Hahonryuu (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. Consecutive edits made from 21:22, 17 October 2024 (UTC) to 21:23, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
      1. 21:22, 17 October 2024 (UTC) ""
      2. 21:23, 17 October 2024 (UTC) ""
    2. Consecutive edits made from 19:44, 16 October 2024 (UTC) to 19:45, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
      1. 19:44, 16 October 2024 (UTC) ""
      2. 19:45, 16 October 2024 (UTC) ""
    3. 08:11, 16 October 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1251332229 by Lililolol (talk)"

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 01:55, 17 October 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Power Girl."

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments:

    A string of edit warring dating back a year as early as June 1, 2023. Clearly WP:NOTHERE to communicate with other editors and has ignored warnings in edit summaries and at their talk. Trailblazer101 (talk) 21:28, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:KryptonianHero reported by User:Trailblazer101 (Result: Blocked indef)

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    Page: Power Girl (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: KryptonianHero (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. Consecutive edits made from 03:46, 18 October 2024 (UTC) to 03:47, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
      1. 03:46, 18 October 2024 (UTC) ""
      2. 03:47, 18 October 2024 (UTC) ""
    2. Consecutive edits made from 03:34, 18 October 2024 (UTC) to 03:35, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
      1. 03:34, 18 October 2024 (UTC) ""
      2. 03:35, 18 October 2024 (UTC) ""
    3. Consecutive edits made from 01:52, 18 October 2024 (UTC) to 01:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
      1. 01:52, 18 October 2024 (UTC) ""
      2. 01:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC) ""

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 02:37, 18 October 2024 (UTC) "Warning: You are a suspected sockpuppet of User:Hahonryuu."
    2. 03:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Power Girl."

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments:

    Appears to be a block evasion of a WP:Single-purpose account, making same edits as Hahonryuu. Trailblazer101 (talk) 04:37, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Well, it appears the editor is intent on continuing their disruptive edit warring with this pseudo threat message at my talk. Trailblazer101 (talk) 05:56, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Blocked indefinitely Daniel Case (talk) 22:56, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:CubicStar reported by User:Nervren (Result: Declined as edit warring took place on elwiki)

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    Page: Συζήτηση:Απελευθέρωση της Αθήνας (1944)
    User being reported: CubicStar (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to: [27]

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. [28] (05:41, 18 Οκτωβρίου 2024)
    2. [29] (06:59, 18 Οκτωβρίου 2024)
    3. [30] (09:42, 18 Οκτωβρίου 2024)
    4. [31] (10:24, 18 Οκτωβρίου 2024)


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: I cannot post to user's talk page. Comments are restricted.

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: This is really the talk page that the user makes edit war to me.

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: Same as before.

    Comments:

    This user does not let me post on the original article, nor to the talk page of the article. He also doesn't leave edit summaries anywhere.

    (I didn't find a procedure for non-english articles so I post here. The page link at the top doesn't work as expected so I posted it as external link.)

    Nervren (talk) 12:59, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    This article is on the Greek Wikipedia. This is the English Wikipedia - we have no influence over edit warring on other Wikis. You're going to have to take this to their edit warring noticeboard. — Czello (music) 13:13, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok thanks I just found it. It's not that organized but I'll try. Have a nice day. Nervren (talk) 18:20, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Declined per above. Daniel Case (talk) 22:57, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:37.155.85.235 reported by User:StephenMacky1 (Result: Blocked)

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    Page: Theodoros Kolokotronis (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: 37.155.85.235 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 16:44, 18 October 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1251884023 by StephenMacky1 (talk) He was perpetrator of the 1821 Tripolitsa massacre and he ordered several massacres. I don't see where is the problem. Trying to hide these facts is problematic, I think."
    2. 16:40, 18 October 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1251883714 by Leonidlednev (talk)"
    3. 16:36, 18 October 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1251882742 by Mellk (talk)"
    4. 16:33, 18 October 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1251879443 by StephenMacky1 (talk)"
    5. 16:09, 18 October 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1251877920 by Mellk (talk)"
    6. 15:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC) ""

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 16:41, 18 October 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Theodoros Kolokotronis."

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments:

    Persistent edit warring and addition of POV material. StephenMacky1 (talk) 16:46, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    He was responsible for 1821 Tripolitsa massacre. It is not a POV. Even greeks themselves are accepting this and boasting about that barbaric massacre. Where is the problem? 37.155.85.235 (talk) 16:47, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:49.186.44.94 reported by User:R0paire-wiki (Result: Blocked)

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    Page: Abortion in Australia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: 49.186.44.94 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 08:06, 19 October 2024 (UTC) "ropaire bot is definitely broken/r3t@rded. can not read simple legislation linked in the paragraph. the legislation specifically cites "unborn child". ropaire bot possible illiterate"
    2. 08:01, 19 October 2024 (UTC) "R0paire bot is citing incorrect quotes from official NSW legislation, citing "foetus" and not "unborn child" as is clearly explicitly stated in official NSW legislative documents. bot possibly r3t@rded?"
    3. Consecutive edits made from 07:53, 19 October 2024 (UTC) to 07:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
      1. 07:53, 19 October 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1252004900 by R0paire-wiki (talk). bot is wrong"
      2. 07:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1252004143 by R0paire-wiki (talk). bot is wrong"
    4. 07:47, 19 October 2024 (UTC) "clearer statistics cited than the inaccurate assumption abortion support is growing and a majority. it is actually the opposite"
    5. Consecutive edits made from 07:34, 19 October 2024 (UTC) to 07:39, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
      1. 07:34, 19 October 2024 (UTC) "Direct quote from legislation mentions "unborn child" not foetus. Direct link to the legislation included. Anyone who edits this to foetus is deliberately misleading the public."
      2. 07:36, 19 October 2024 (UTC) "Accurate wording directly from legislation."
      3. 07:39, 19 October 2024 (UTC) "corrected inaccurate quoting of the legislation. the legislation says clearly and specifically "child" not foetus."

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 07:45, 19 October 2024 (UTC) "Disruptive editing (UV 0.1.6)"
    2. 07:49, 19 October 2024 (UTC) "Reverting edit(s) by 49.186.44.94 (talk) to rev. 1252004406 by R0paire-wiki: Personal attacks towards another editor (UV 0.1.6)"

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments:

    Strongly suspect the user to be the user recently blocked on this linked thread Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:49.195.79.115 reported by User:R0paire-wiki (Result: Already blocked one week). Making very similar edits and now engaging in personal attacks. R0paire-wiki (talk) 08:08, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Remsense reported by User:Avrand6 (Result: )

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    Page: War of 1812 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: User:Remsense

    Previous version reverted to: [32][33]


    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. [34]
    2. [35]
    3. [36]
    4. [37]
    1. [38]
    2. [39]
    3. [40]
    4. [41]



    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [42]

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [43] [44]

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [45]

    Comments:
    I have tried to be civil throughout the entire process of disagreement, but the user in question seems to think he can bully his way into winning an edit war as a more experienced user. Now he falsely claims I have fabricated a source which is, in fact, a true source that was used to maintain the same point on other articles on this site. He has also been rude and condescending throughout the entire process, as I have tried to remain kind and understanding. I hope that an administrator can help resolve this disagreement peacefully and amicably if possible. AvRand (talk) 12:45, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    That my null edit—which explicated the failed verification of a fabricated citation so that other editors would be made aware of the issue and judge the situation accordingly—is being cited here should more or less speak for itself. Remsense ‥ 论 12:50, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If you actually read the text as you purport to, you would see it does support a connection between the War of 1812 and the Napoleonic Wars. AvRand (talk) 12:52, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    What page has the text that verifies your claims? A page number was not specified in your citation, because none was specified in the citation on Napoleonic Wars that you blindly copied. Remsense ‥ 论 12:54, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I guess I should try to make a case for myself and not make admins do all the investigation: I didn't violate 3RR, and I tried to minimize disruption by guiding OP to the talk pages with it specified that content policy issues needed to be worked out before they jumped to restore content again. They did so anyway, and were happy to disregard WP:V to do so. I hate pulling teeth like this, but if anyone has any advice for how I should better deal with situations without these, I would really appreciate it. I really hate using up my 3R "quota" across multiple pages and I hate having to treat it like a quota—but I don't know what else I'm meant to do other than hope someone else notices when someone fakes citations. Remsense ‥ 论 13:19, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    To provide context from my side: I was the one who created discussions on the talk pages, to meat out a consensus, and I went to two wikiprojects to ask for input from more neutral parties. He was content to ignore disagreements and revert edits with lines like "Nonsense" without providing support. Standard practice when there's a disagreement between editors is to leave the page as is while a discussion is had and a consensus reached. But he complained that the status quo page wasn't sourced, so I provided a source from a similar article. (A book I admittedly, haven't read in over six years/2018 when I was researching the War of 1812.) But that I assumed it would be a fair stopgap measure. Instead, he threatened to report me after addressing his concerns. He then kept on edit warring on the Sixth Coalition article. So I decided to warn him about edit warring on his talk page. When the user dismissed it all, I decided to submit this for administrative consideration. I apologize if i've formatted anything incorrectly, this is the first time in my ten years on wikipedia i've felt the need to go down this path. AvRand (talk) 13:30, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Because you admit you fabricated the citation, that should make it clear to you that you violated WP:BURDEN several times, and then tried to turn it around on me like I was being dishonest about what the book said and didn't say. There's really no defense for that, and the fact that you can't even admit you very clearly violated a non-negotiable site content policy multiple times and attempted to manipulate me and the admins in favor of some imagined "consensus" is itself extremely poor conduct. I'm not going to pretend my initial pair of less-than-helpful edit summaries gave you permission to do that. Remsense ‥ 论 13:34, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Frankly, you're the only one trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes here. I was fully transparent with the citation. I don't fabricate anything. You can't bully users into submitting to your worldview through edit warring just because you're a more seasoned wikipedian. It's also worth noting he removed the Template AN3-notice page of content after he received the notice. AvRand (talk) 13:39, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Mahan reported by User:Beshogur (Result: Page protected)

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    Page: Uzun Hasan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Mahan (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to: [46]

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. [47]
    2. [48]
    3. [49]
    4. [50]

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [51]

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [52]

    Comments:
    Short: User tries to impose his own edits without checking it correctly, which is also irrelevant to the personality.

    First he started by putting these extra redundant information about the person Persianate[5][6], Sunni[7], which was copy pasted from Aq Qoyunlu. If you're not familiar, it's about the Aq Qoyunlu state being Persianate and Sunni Muslim, while the article Uzun Hasan mentions that he was the ruler of Turkoman Aq Qoyunlu state, which is logical since that's their main idendity, not being "Persianate, Sunni Muslim". It is irrelevant to Uzun Hasan. Can't verify source [7].

    Source [5] is about Uzun Hasan, but doesn't explicitly state it's "Persianate", while source [6] tells that Aq Qoyunlu state was Persianate (nothing about Uzun Hasan). I know it is about the Aq Qoyunlu state, but the point is to keep it short. This user wants to include Uzun Hasan being Persianate, while he just copied stuff from Aq Qoyunlu article. No one is calling Mehmed II being the ruler of Sunni Muslim Ottoman Empire. There is nothing that indicates Uzun Hasan is Persianate and religion shouldn't be there either. But Turkoman should stay since Aq Qoyunlu is called White Sheep Turkomans in English historiography.

    He also changes Persian name to first, instead of Azerbaijani, claiming Putting the official language first, ignoring the alphabetical order. So I don't see a WP:GF here.

    The way he's editing (look at commas) shows also he's not quite serious. I also asked for page protection before, but nothing happened.

    Beshogur (talk) 13:17, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • I have a similar report about User:Beshogur. 4 times removing significant content with verifiable sources 1, 2, 3,4. He receive 3RR warning here. The user was asked to write his argument on the talk page instead of deleting the content, but he did not pay attention. Persianate (national/cultural identity), Sunni Muslim (religious identity) just like this person's tribal background (Turkoman) are the most important characteristics of this historical figure. Uzun Hassan was the king of a land called Iran/Persia and his official language was Persian [53], even his signature in the infobox is Persian language, so mentioning Azerbaijani language in the lead is irrelevant. Typing mistakes like commas or lack of language skill do not mean lack of seriousness, please be civil. -- Mahan (talk) 14:15, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Hello Mahan, WP:ONUS applies: The onus to obtain a consensus for inclusion is on you. You can start a discussion on the article's talk page (Talk:Uzun Hasan), invite Beshogur to it, convince Beshogur and others, and if you remain in disagreement, perhaps ask for a third opinion. You may not restore the disputed content until a consensus is found. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:06, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      There is nothing like "official language" back then like written in constitutions today. Azerbaijani was the lingua franca of the region (see Ajem Turkic). Why are you trying to remove Azerbaijani now? I thought the problem was order of "official language". The order of both languages is simply listed alphabetical, there is no hidden purpose here. I didn't add "Turkoman" add the first place, yet being Turkoman is the main identity of the Aq Qoyunlu state, which makes "Persianate, Sunni Muslim" irrelevant for Uzun Hasan. Uzun Hassan was the king of a land called Iran/Persia and his official language was Persian so what? Uzun Hasan is the one that claimed descent of semi-mythical king Bayindir Khan. You're trying to remove everything related to Turkic (even removed "uzun" meaning Turkic. Reason? even his signature in the infobox is Persian language that's not true because I found the signature first and added here on wikipedia. And there is nothing Persian there, it has his full name + symbol of his tribe + Turkic word syüzümïz (our word). Don't mislead people. This is slowly getting Wikipedia:Civil POV pushing. Beshogur (talk) 17:28, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Page protected ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:06, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hello ToBeFree, I will request a third opinion on the talk page, but I disagree with the current version that you undid because it has caused the changing of some content other than the disputed issue (like royal titles and name meanings). Please check again. Thank you -- Mahan (talk) 15:24, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:2600:8806:2200:5000:8C19:5962:8FB7:EFEC reported by User:FlightTime (Result: Blocked 24h)

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    Page: Boys Town (organization) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: 2600:8806:2200:5000:8C19:5962:8FB7:EFEC (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 18:14, 19 October 2024 (UTC) "Cited the documentary and the investigative non-fiction book. Cope more"
    2. 18:06, 19 October 2024 (UTC) ""
    3. 18:03, 19 October 2024 (UTC) "Source material"
    4. 17:19, 19 October 2024 (UTC) "Added citations on the allegations"

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 18:10, 19 October 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Boys Town (organization)."
    2. 18:11, 19 October 2024 (UTC) "/* October 2024 */ + Section header"

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments:

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